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Truck Yeah! The Good, Bad, and Bizarre of Modern Trucking with Trucking Ray and Matty G

Trucking Ray Episode 82

In this thought-provoking episode, Trucking Ray and co-host Matty G dive deep into the evolving landscape of American trucking. With the rise of autonomous vehicles from companies like Kodiak Robotics and Aurora, the question isn't just about technology—it's about the soul of the industry. Can automation truly replace the grit, judgment, and human connection truckers bring to the road? Alongside serious conversations about legislation, driver retention, and representation, the episode also delivers gripping real-life stories and lighthearted moments that prove trucking is as human—and as American—as it gets.

Key Takeaways:
Trucking is still a people business: The ATA’s new docuseries emphasizes the irreplaceable human role in freight transportation.
Automation tension rises: Self-driving truck companies push forward, but concerns grow over safety, job loss, and accountability.
Driver shortage or retention problem?: The hosts challenge the narrative, pointing out that poor treatment—not lack of interest—may be pushing drivers away.
New English-language CDL requirement debate: Proposed rules could impact millions of skilled drivers, raising questions about fairness and safety.
Real trucking heroes: A daughter spots and recovers her dad’s stolen truck, and a three-day police chase shows the unpredictable side of the job.
Pop culture & trucking: Taylor Swift’s night-driving anthems and The Rock’s monster truck movie highlight trucking's growing presence in entertainment.
A message for divided times: Unity, respect, and open dialogue may be the road forward—on and off the highway. 

ATA Launches Docuseries “DRIVEN”; Kodiak Completes 100 Autonomous Freight Deliveries; Aurora Begins Driverless Trucking Between Dallas and Houston; Daughter Helps Recover Father’s Stolen Semi; 3-Day Police Chase of Stolen Semi in Detroit; Taylor Swift’s Night Driving Playlist Vibes; The Rock’s Monster Truck Movie Announced

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Speaker 2:

Welcome back to another episode of that's Delivered. I'm your go-to guy, trucking Ray, and we also have a great episode here with co-host Maddie G. We're going to dive into some of the latest things that are going on in the trucking industry, the developments, and sprinkle it with some, maybe, pop culture. So let's hit the road. Yo, matty G, what's going on, man? How you doing today.

Speaker 3:

I'm out here I take it. Whatever I'm doing is what I'm doing. I don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I like it. Man, I think you're great. You're out there doing it, showing up, coming in. We need you out there. A lot of people out there want to take it easy. You're taking the high road. You're going out there doing things. I appreciate you, man, just like all the other truckers out there. Show to remind trucking is still a people business. It's a lot to be said about that. They're starting these movies for the trucking industry. I wanted to play it for you. Let's see if we can get that going.

Speaker 3:

Starting movies huh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Ooh, I think we got something here. We might have just came up with a trucking movie.

Speaker 4:

This ain't it. This ain't it. This ain't it. Everybody just stagnant. Ain't nobody trying to do nothing? I'm like I got to get up out of here. How am I going to get out? And I'm like trucking I have to get out the truck.

Speaker 5:

You know most people when they're at their job they might be in a cubicle, it might be in an office for most parts, or even in a warehouse, not too many windows in their job.

Speaker 3:

That's all I've got. I've got a great view of the world.

Speaker 5:

Mostly I drive up north on the Dalton Highway up to Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, north on the Dalton Highway up to Prudhoe Bay, Alaska. What I do creates a spiderweb effect that affects everyone throughout this country and I'm proud of what I do as a commercial driver.

Speaker 2:

Pretty slick huh oh yeah, yeah, they put that together man for trucking out there, so that people know that the industry is still for people. It's like a new documentary series focused on American truckers. They launched it. This is done by ATA, American Trucking Association yeah, nothing without trucking campaign. So it's part of their campaign, which educates policymakers and the public about the indispensable role that trucking plays in Americans' lives. The series plans to document the vast array of roles throughout the trucking industry, together to form an unbreakable bond with the US supply chain. So that's nice.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you know what's cool about you know, is you finally start, you know. You know what's cool about you know, is you finally start. You know seeing more stuff about trucking. You know, I think every other profession has. You can go on YouTube and you know, I'm sure there's going to be stuff on there if you, you know, youtube it. But it just seems nowadays there's just more and more light shed on the trucking industry.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let's talk about it right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know, and then they're also going out to the, the white house that says the there's a proposal for a commercial motor vehicle english proficiency act in the us senate that would, uh, require full english proficiency for cdl holders, potentially worsening the ongoing driver shortage by affecting as many as 3 million non-english speaking drivers. I didn't know, it was that many I, I.

Speaker 3:

I guess it depends what your level of you know. Should you be able to read street signs? Yes, you know a lot of street signs, do have pictures with them, um, but yeah, I mean, might be a good guy that can't speak a lick of english that can drive the hell out of a truck.

Speaker 2:

There you go man, you see some of English that can drive a hell out of a truck.

Speaker 3:

There you go, man. You see some of those people in those different countries. The roads and the terrains they be driving on Make ours look like the Sierra Desert. They be wrapping around a road with an old Volvo from 1944. Load hanging off the cliff he got to do a blind back 90.

Speaker 2:

And here's another one that I'll show you Kodak partners with Roche to upgrade trucks with autonomous tech. This move ties into developing operations with customers with Atlas Energy Solutions, which is running autonomous Kodak equipment trucks 24-7. Which is running autonomous Kodak equipment trucks 24-7. Kodak Robotics has landed a partner to give Big Rigs the ability to drive autonomous and they're looking at Michigan anticipated to be for Kodak's first customer, atlas Energy Solutions. So they're moving around trying to get it done. End of the article says running a driverless fleet still takes people. That's what the guy is saying here.

Speaker 3:

They don't want to cause a panic you got to end it with a note like that yeah, so the whole beginning of your paragraph was nothing.

Speaker 2:

You know, you think about that. You know, when you read stuff like that, right, when you get your job and you go somewhere and you say, man, this is a great company and you're thinking great things and you're like man. You know, man, this is a great company and you're thinking great things and you're like man, you know, I think it's going to be awesome. And they tell you all kinds of great things in your ear and I think a lot of that distress when it comes to another company telling you great things comes from that long line of sweet talking the driver that things are going to be so great. And so now when you roll out autonomous vehicles, your mind kind of goes back to well, I've been, I've been lied to quite a bit, so should I trust this new thing? What do you think?

Speaker 3:

Oh, yeah, I mean, we're like that within everything we don't. You know, I mean, the trust is gone. Yeah, the trust is gone, I mean, and you know, it's always usually somewhat of an interpretation of what they're saying, necessarily not the picture that we've painted in our minds or whatever media network is painting us to believe. It's usually some, you know, in some shape, way or form. I just hope that we can continue to drive and you know, I don't know if it's going to be in our lifetime that we're totally slated out by this atomic, you know, driving vehicles. It's just a whole fleet. Yeah, I mean, that's major.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the other company that's pushing them out is Aurora, and they have autonomous technology that could massively disrupt it says 1.6 trillion global market for road freight, which is under pressure from a shortage of truck drivers as well as the raising cost of logistics and volume of online partials. So a little bit of sprinkle in there, you know. Do we believe there's a driver shortage or is there a driver retention problem? How do you treat your drivers? How do you take care of them? Do they want to stay?

Speaker 3:

I think there's a little bit of everything. I think all that's in the bowl. I think a lot of people aren't interested to drive right now. I mean, look where we're moving at. Um, you know, with the type of kids that we're raising nowadays, you know, kids are soft as hell. They don't, they don't want to be out here doing what we're doing. You know they. They want to be, uh, you know influencers and you know all that other stuff. They don't want to be in no truck. Um, you know you can't even. There's a shortage of everything, you know. But who?

Speaker 3:

So just say, for instance, you get one of these vehicles, what are you going to do? Like t4, all right, so you take t4. So, or t4s or any of those other. You know delivery, you're going to have a robotic company. For instance, when I bought my grill, that thing had to come off on a pallet jack. My wife was at home. She surely wasn't going to get it off for the dude. What are you going to do with all these people? And nowadays, you got so many people wanting to sit home and smoke weed. They'd rather sit home and smoke weed than drive a truck. You can't do both. So I'm telling you these kids are soft. Nobody wanted. I don't know what it is. I think there's a big misconception of what a truck driver is doing.

Speaker 2:

I don't think they know what they want to do. Either A lot of times you ask them what do you want to do?

Speaker 3:

either a lot of times you ask them what do you want to do? They don't know. Yeah, I want my social, my instagram's bumping right now on that lambo yeah. So I don't know, man I I just hope we're heading in the right direction of where we can. We're still around to see where what's going to happen with all this. I mean, you know, 20 years ago we were talking about meet george. We're going to be flying around in 2025 yeah I mean there's, there's I.

Speaker 3:

I don't know where you're at, but I don't see not one person flying a car right now in the sky. So there's a lot of uncertainty. I mean, we're living in a time, right now that I mean it's man. We just I'm just happy to wake up in the morning.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

All the other stuff going on in the world.

Speaker 2:

Dropping bombs.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and I don't. I ain't. We ain't talking about going to the bathroom.

Speaker 2:

I mean they, uh, we were talking about that, but yeah, so that's the trucking industry that looks like a truck driver news. Um, you know it's, it's always going to be a back and forth thing about that. It's nice that we have these truck shows you can go to and see the camaraderie that's still out there, with trucking companies working together with other types of supporting companies as well. I think that's a great thing to keep those truck shows going. Also, the education part of it making sure that you know we're educating drivers about drivers, about safety. I mean seeing way too many videos out there where trucks are doing things that are risky and not getting away with it yeah, I just hope I'm around to see it, right, yeah?

Speaker 2:

that's what we're doing.

Speaker 3:

I'm living around, yeah I just want to see it, man get some more videos for us don't hit the wrong button and pop up no ditty video man I went no ditty I don't want to get us on the trial. I'm booked up the next couple of weeks. I can't make it. I don't know nothing. I'm allergic to baby oil.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

No, but that's what I'd say. I'm allergic man. I have hives all over me. Leave you laying like a vegetable, like you're in some soup. How do you like that one right?

Speaker 2:

I don't know that one.

Speaker 3:

It's another little Wayne tidbit for you.

Speaker 2:

I think this is Walmart. Canada has made history becoming the first major retailer in Canada to produce hydrogen fuel cell electric semi-truck high-tech truck. Walmart canada aims to reduce its carbon footprint by eliminating an estimated 97 metric tons of co2 emissions annually man.

Speaker 3:

I'm convinced that they could already done this. I'm convinced that they. I'm convinced that we could already have a whole world full of non-gash field vehicles. There ain't no money in that fuel makes too many billionaires here's another video for you.

Speaker 2:

Let me share this one. See where it could take us. A truck driver's daughter.

Speaker 6:

We were chasing him for 20, 30 minutes without the cops. We were chasing him so I was a little scared.

Speaker 5:

Only on Local 10 News at 6, hot pursuit for a stolen semi truck. But the person chasing that truck is not a police officer A South Florida woman taking action after suddenly spotting her family's stolen semi.

Speaker 1:

Shockingly, the stolen truck passed her on the Palmetto Expressway. Let's get right to La Quentin's Rushlow live in Northeast Miami-Dade with our exclusive tonight.

Speaker 5:

What are the odds? That is the theme to this story A stolen tractor, trailer and the victim's daughter just happens to be on the palmetto expressway when it passes her. Go, go, go, go, go straight, and all of a sudden you see this truck I see this truck from the back, my friend tells me isn't that your friend?

Speaker 6:

your dad's truck?

Speaker 5:

I have to stop you there. What goes through your mind?

Speaker 6:

okay, I didn't believe it.

Speaker 5:

Talk about being at the right place the right time, so I got a little closer I became a little right time, so I got a little closer.

Speaker 6:

I became a little NASCAR driver. I got a little closer. What did she do? Jump up on the truck, my dad's truck.

Speaker 5:

And what goes through your mind now.

Speaker 6:

I didn't know whether to call 911, whether to call my dad. We called my dad first and he said hang up right now, call 911.

Speaker 5:

What are the odds? This 22-year-old Hialeah woman says her dad's semi-tractor trailer was stolen June 3rd.

Speaker 6:

We were following him for a very long time 20, 30 minutes. He made this very awkward turn and then we had to make that very awkward turn behind him, so I got a little scared. I was like, oh, maybe they see that we're following him.

Speaker 5:

She's driving on the Palmetto Expressway and sees it. Look at all this video. You can see the whole thing play out.

Speaker 6:

The police show up right in front of them. They didn't stop. They took their guns out. They did all that stuff. And the 18-wheeler?

Speaker 5:

they ran Cops able to catch the suspects. They're cuffed. You can see that as well.

Speaker 6:

And so what did her dad say after all of this?

Speaker 2:

He said he said that's what he said. What does that?

Speaker 6:

mean A female horse, like like you're a beast. You know what I'm saying, so yeah, that's what happened.

Speaker 5:

What a story.

Speaker 6:

What a story.

Speaker 5:

She tells us two men taken into custody. She also says once she saw that truck she was determined to get it back for her dad In Northeast Miami-Dade. I'm Rosh Lowe, local 10 News. Oh wow.

Speaker 2:

How do you?

Speaker 3:

like that.

Speaker 2:

Huh.

Speaker 3:

I'm great to have found it. I mean I'm not trying to promote theft or anything, but what happened to people stealing stuff a little inconspicuous? I mean you want to steal a semi-truck? I mean you got a good chance of getting caught, you just driving a joyride around in a semi truck Look like a manual too.

Speaker 3:

Man, yeah man, what you out joyriding for Trying to kill that Uber Eats Got my DoorDash. What if you was delivering Door door dash in the semi truck? Yeah, that's, uh. I thought she was going to come out with like a lasso and scale the back of the semi truck and climb over it like Fall Guy. You should know about Fall Guy back in the day. Man, real hillbilly show right there.

Speaker 2:

How about this one?

Speaker 4:

The alleged driver of a semi truck put in handcuffs by Dearborn police. The end result of three days of on again and off again running from police. The arrest happening at Market and Winder in Detroit around 2 Monday afternoon, across from Zeph's Coney Island. Zeph was in the back and saw two of his employees looking out the window.

Speaker 6:

What are you guys looking at? Oh, we just missing a lot of police cars.

Speaker 4:

Well, someone must have got pulled over. Video on social media paints a different picture of what led to the arrest. According to sources, the driver of the semi is accused of breaking into an ex's home in Deerport on Saturday morning. When police arrived, he hit a cruiser and then led police on a chase through multiple cities. The chase was called off for safety reasons. Then the semi was spotted the next day, and this is Sunday, so he's spotted somewhere else. Same guy, same guy, same burgundy truck. Another pursuit through Warren, garden City, westland and other communities, again called off due to safety for others.

Speaker 6:

So you can't gauge what people are on these days and you know where their heads at Get out of the car, maybe with a gun or something you know.

Speaker 4:

But around two Monday afternoon he was tracked down at Eastern Market. You saw cop cars flying by.

Speaker 5:

I saw them flying, but I don't know if, like sometimes, they fly for nothing, so I just thought it was some random stuff.

Speaker 4:

And taken into custody without further incident or injury. Glad they did, you know, and justice will be served for the guy. Now, according to sources that suspect, the driver of that semi is in the custody of Dearborn Police. He is expected to be arraigned on several felony charges. Reporting live in the heart of Eastern Market, dave Spencer. Fox 2 News.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, a lot of people could have been hurt during this. But Dave, how did he three days? I mean we hear about Crazy's crazy.

Speaker 3:

What do you say about that? One man, yeah, you know three days, yeah, I just, uh, man, there's some things you just really just can't say stuff about nothing. Really, you know, I know it's kind of. You know so many stuff, so much stuff happens nowadays. You know they, some things just leave you speechless. You know some things just leave you speech. Crazy is crazy, weird is weird and stupid is stupid. There's no, uh, I want to know how the hell they couldn't find a semi truck for three days yeah, that must be the new thing now just to have less damage.

Speaker 2:

Let it keep going. Maybe you know it'll burn itself out. You know, because you know how much fuel you got to have to keep going around for three days, you know.

Speaker 3:

Well, a squad car ain't got enough to keep up with a semi truck. I'm surprised they didn't put they must not have had a chopper able to deploy the helicopter to follow them, because you know, a lot of times they pull off the squad cars but keep the chopper on them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, stuff like this is going to make them want to do more with drones. Can you imagine a drone right?

Speaker 3:

outside your window, follow someone for three days.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you know they might equip those drones with some tactile, you know.

Speaker 3:

They got them lasers, laser beams.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, or you know, they could just have like a little arrow on there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like grab a hold of your engine and shut it down.

Speaker 2:

Yep, with some electrodes that could uh short the truck out, oh yeah yeah, well, hopefully these idiots stop going on.

Speaker 3:

Uh, high-speed chases with semi-trucks well, hopefully they just stop doing the high-speed chases all together.

Speaker 2:

Take your key with you. Take your key with you.

Speaker 3:

Lock the doors lock the doors, see now. See, we're going back to what we talked about earlier in the last year in the show Urban trucking defense driving.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

You know, I don't know what it is, but whenever I think of someone going on a heist chase with a semi-truck not that I've seen it, but I'm sure it does kind of ring a bell. It's something I would have seen on Chips, a TV show back in the day with John and punch. Got a guy with a semi truck they barreling down on them and skip through a way station. And yeah, stupid is as stupid does forest had it right well, I guess you could listen to taylor swift.

Speaker 2:

Now she's got, uh, a list of songs that captured the night driving vibe. Perfect for late night road trips, solo drives, emotional cruising. The songs are grouped by moody, by mood, dreamy, cinematic, mellow and powerful, offering a mix of lyrics, smooth pop music that can help make you feel like you belong on the highway at half the dark. It's a real thing. She's coming out with these songs.

Speaker 3:

Man, she's targeting the trucking community, huh.

Speaker 2:

I don't know man, I'm just saying it's out there, this Love, midnight Rain.

Speaker 3:

I thought you were going to say Midnight Oil.

Speaker 2:

No, not doing that. No, ditty.

Speaker 3:

We're going to have a whole new group of Swifties huh.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3:

Trucking Swifties.

Speaker 2:

Niche.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that sounds sweet.

Speaker 2:

How about Dwayne the Rock?

Speaker 3:

The Rock has finally returned. He wants to be a trucker, huh.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, but there's a scoop out there that Dwayne Rock Johnson is upcoming with the Monster Truck movie. It's a little different. It's a little different. It's not a semi but it's a monster truck and it's officially called Monster Jam. It's a live-action feature set to an adrenaline-filled Monster Jam Motorsports universe. I like the Rock. I think he's cool. You don't like the Rock? Yeah, let's see if I can share the screen here.

Speaker 3:

Mr Dwayne Johnson. I think he's a likable guy. I don't want him in too many serious movie roles.

Speaker 2:

I mean.

Speaker 3:

I don't think he's Kevin Costner or anything. I mean, if John Cena can be a successful movie star, the Rock can.

Speaker 1:

Disney has officially announced a new project with the title of Monster Jam, and here I'm going to tell you everything which have been revealed thus far. 's your host, aryan, and let's jump right in. So t23 expo 2024 is full of surprises, and the biggest of all is coming in the form of a new project with the title of monster jam. Just in case, if you don't know, then let me tell you all that monster jam is going to focus on the lives of heavy truck drivers, and it is a a live-action type of movie. So Dwayne, the Rock Johnson, is all set to make an epic performance in this particular movie. To be honest, at this point I feel like Dwayne is going to be in every other Disney project. He's in Moana 2, then in its live-action version, and now he's starring in this epic truck-driving saga.

Speaker 2:

How about that?

Speaker 3:

huh Thought you watched that clip from Alibaba. I thought you went on T-Moon real quick.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I was like oh, they play clips on T-Moon now, huh T-Moon. No wonder why it was short.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's Disney. They putting it out, man, they getting it done. They want the trucking community to come around for the trucking monster. Jam you ever been to one of those shows?

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, trucking community, you know to come around for the truck and monster jam you ever been in one of those shows?

Speaker 3:

oh, yeah, you have. Oh yeah, what's that? What is it like? Man, yeah, I did the monster truck thing with the kids. Oh, nice, it's. It's uh.

Speaker 3:

If you never been, I'm, it's, it's pretty cool. It's not, it's the uh, it's a. It's a pretty cool experience. It's. You know, it's funny because you always see, um, you watch. Well, I don't know if everybody has, but I know I did this. Funny because you always see you watch. Well, I don't know if everybody has, but I know I did, as growing up you watched it. You know, bigfoot was majorly cool and you always see the videos with the guys with the headphones, because it's so it is that loud on there that you could have that you should be wearing ear protection. I think when we went, we did went down to the pits. We went down to the pits, we went there beforehand and they had all the trucks on the, so we're able to walk on the, you know, down on the turf, walk up next to the truck. It's a cool experience. Yeah, I think it's a good time. I think it's just actually coming here right now. I think it's supposed to be at the XL.

Speaker 2:

Nice, there you go, get on that Google search or whatever you use to find your information and try to make some memories with your family. That's good.

Speaker 3:

That's what it's all about.

Speaker 2:

That's what it's all about. Another one that's coming. It looks like Netflix is jumping on the bandwagon and they got a docu-series about trucking titans. Looks like there's a notable trucking series, a special trucking titans heavy haul legends and their epic journeys. Youtube previews out there, kind of going back. They've done some other things Big Rig Netflix since 2007. Classic documentary following long haul drivers across the country. Heavy Rescue 401. Heavy Haulers and Mud Mountain Haulers. They're based out of something that looks like a set in British Columbia. It's a docuseries of spotlights Long haulers taking enormous rigs, hauling giant timber and mountainous terrain. So that's kind of cool.

Speaker 3:

That's what I'm talking about, right there Driving like that. I think that'd be cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Wouldn't you like to do heavy haul for a day? See if you can do it. Maneuver, uh, you know one of them. You ever see those uh huge winter bike, uh propellers going down the road, yeah. And then the back axle ain't even really connected to the the truck, it's just underneath and got like a cable holding the tension together.

Speaker 2:

It's amazing yeah, it's uh, it's gritty, it's reality, it's emotional journey, it's a mix. I think it's great for listeners, uh, fans that care about trucks. You know, that way they can, you know, keep that thrill going for themselves. I mean, if you got something that you're passionate about, keep it going. Yeah, you got plenty of content out there, plenty of entertainment out there to learn about stuff with even actually not having to have to do it. So so that's that's nice good exposure. Glad they're putting those that stuff out there for young ones too. Um, yeah, next one is man three acts of coffee. Man, we're trying to niche down and create something great for truckers out there. It's a company I got to be a part of, um to promote coffee, uh and trucking two things I really love. Um, you got a bag this weekend. How'd it go?

Speaker 3:

I got a bag. I got a bag. Oh, I was at first I was skeptical, but I got to be honest with you. I was pretty shocked. It was really good. I had a nice, robust, smooth coffee flavor to it. It did not disappoint. It got me going for the day. Nice, I was in there like swimwear that's good man.

Speaker 2:

I appreciate that giving a shout out drinking some right now actually for real drinking some right now.

Speaker 3:

Three axles on the three axles sitting on three axles, drinking three axles man, we sound like a rap group, but I'm just telling you this what goes? I mean trucking and coffee, they like. Go together like ebony and ivory man. You can't have one with the other. How did you like it? What did you think?

Speaker 2:

about it. I love it. Yeah, I wanted to keep it going myself, so I ordered some more. I ordered five more, so I'll bring them around for you to sample.

Speaker 3:

You can enjoy all of them, so I figured you know, yeah come a truck stop near you guys and look over that three axles and I don't want nothing about those guys driving it was a single screw. Talking bad about three axles, so you know, it might come out with some two axle for you. Hey, discriminating, yeah, all we drive is I drive a single screw. What about me? Everybody got feelings nowadays.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, everybody do.

Speaker 3:

I think the name is amazing nice, nice.

Speaker 2:

It really paints a picture for you, yeah yeah, that's, uh, it's it thanks, man. All right, well, um, that's it for today. We um put that out there for for the listeners. I appreciate you coming on the show talking about it. Man, you know there's a lot going on in the trucking world. There's a lot going on in the world in general. We didn't even touch on that. We got a little message you want to put out there for them.

Speaker 3:

Let's just, you know, as always, you know, be a little. Yeah, love is love, man, we got to try something different because the way we've been doing stuff lately just ain't working. We all need to come together a little bit, find a common instead of looking for the divider.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and try not to play the game of being on the Internet. Looking at the social media, I mean. I know it's great to be able to check out and relax, but there's some forces out there that want to keep us at war with each other, keep us fighting each other. So if we can all come together for something like trucking and get the job done, you know that I think that'll make the world a better place no doubt, no doubt b that's it for it.

Speaker 2:

I'm glad for you to be on the show and it's another episode with maddie g. If you like the show, you like what you hear, if you like what you see, uh, give us a shout and do a review. We appreciate you. Helps fight the algorithm so we can get the message out there. More people, can, you know, enjoy this message, this show that we put on and that's delivered.

Speaker 3:

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